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الرسالة: [QUOTE="apostle.paul, post: 2522469, member: 85886"] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=Black][B]لكن للرد ابدا اولا بالتراجم المختلفة[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=Blue][B]فانديك [/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=Black][B]6 [/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=Black][B]لأَنَّهُ يُولَدُ لَنَا وَلَدٌ وَنُعْطَى ابْناً وَتَكُونُ الرِّيَاسَةُ عَلَى كَتِفِهِ وَيُدْعَى اسْمُهُ عَجِيباً مُشِيراً إِلَهاً قَدِيراً أَباً أَبَدِيّاً رَئِيسَ السَّلاَمِ[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=Black][B].[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=Blue][B]الحياه [/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=Black][B]6 [/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=Black][B]لأنه يولد لنا ولد ويعطى لنا ابن يحمل الرياسة على كتفه، ويدعى اسمه عجيبا، مشيرا، إلها قديرا، أبا أبديا، رئيس السلام[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=Black][B].[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=Blue][B]السارة [/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=Black][B]6 [/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=Black][B]لأنه يولد لنا ولد ويعطى لنا ابن وتكون الرئاسة على كتفه[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=Black][B]. [/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=Black][B]يسمى باسم عجيب، ويكون مشيرا وإلها قديرا وأبا أبديا ورئيس السلام[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=Black][B].[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=Blue][B]اليسوعية [/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=Black][B]6 [/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=Black][B]لأنه قد ولد لنا ولد وأعطي لنا آبن فصارت الرئاسة على كتفه ودعي أسمه عجيبا مشيرا إلها جبارا، أبا الأبد، رئيس السلام[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=Blue][B]المشتركة [/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=Black][B]اش[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=Black][B]-9-5: [/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=Black][B]لأنَّهُ يولَدُ لَنا ولَدٌ ويُعطَى لَنا اَبنٌ وتكونُ الرِّئاسةُ على كَتِفِهِ[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=Black][B]. [/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=Black][B]يُسمَّى باَسمِ عجيبٍ، ويكونُ مُشيرًا وإلهًا قديرًا وأبًا أبديُا ورئيسَ السَّلامِ[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=Black][B].[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=Blue][B]الكاثوليكية [/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=Black][B]اش[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=Black][B]-9-5: [/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=Black][B]لِأَنَّه قد وُلدَ لَنا وَلَدٌ وأُعطِيَ لَنا آبنٌ فصارَتِ الرِّئاسةُ على كَتِفِه ودُعِيَ أسمُه عَجيباً مُشيراً إِلهاً جَبَّاراً، أَبا الأَبَد، رَئيسَ السَّلام[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [LEFT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008080][B]Isa 9:6[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008080][B](ASV)[/B][/COLOR][B] For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. [/B][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008080][B](BBE)[/B][/COLOR][B] For to us a child has come, to us a son is given; and the government has been placed in his hands; and he has been named Wise Guide, Strong God, Father for ever, Prince of Peace. [/B][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008080][B](Bishops)[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#0000ff][B](9:5)[/B][/COLOR][B] For vnto vs a chylde is borne, and vnto vs a sonne is geuen, vpon his shoulder doth the rule lye, and he is called with his owne name wonderfull, the geuer of 10ombre10, the mightie God, the euerlasting father, the prince of peace. [/B][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008080][B](CEV)[/B][/COLOR][B] A child has been born for us. We have been given a son who will be our ruler. His names will be Wonderful Advisor and Mighty God, Eternal Father and Prince of Peace. [/B][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008080][B](Darby)[/B][/COLOR][B] For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder; and his name is called Wonderful, Counsellor, Mighty *God, Father of Eternity, Prince of Peace. [/B][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008080][B](DRB)[/B][/COLOR][B] For a CHILD IS BORN to us, and a son is given to us, and the government is upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, God the Mighty, the Father of the world to come, the Prince of Peace. [/B][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008080][B](ESV)[/B][/COLOR][B] For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. [/B][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008080][B](FLS)[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#0000ff][B](9:5)[/B][/COLOR][B] Car un enfant nous est né, un fils nous est donné, Et la domination reposera sur son épaule; On l’appellera Admirable, Conseiller, Dieu puissant, Père éternel, Prince de la paix. [/B][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008080][B](Geneva)[/B][/COLOR][B] For vnto vs a childe is borne, and vnto vs a Sonne is giuen: and the gouernement is vpon his shoulder, and he shall call his name Wonderfull, Counseller, The mightie God, The euerlasting Father, The prince of peace, [/B][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008080][B](GLB)[/B][/COLOR][B] 10ombre10o ist ein Kind geboren, ein Sohn ist uns gegeben, und die Herrschaft ist auf seiner Schulter; er heißt Wunderbar, Rat, Held, Ewig-Vater Friedefürst; [/B][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008080][B](GNB)[/B][/COLOR][B] A child is born to us! A son is given to us! And he will be our ruler. He will be called, “Wonderful Counselor,” “Mighty God,” “Eternal Father,” “Prince of Peace.” [/B][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008080][B](GW)[/B][/COLOR][B] A child will be born for us. A son will be given to us. The government will rest on his shoulders. He will be named: Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. [/B][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008080][B](HOT)[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#0000ff][B](9:5)[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][B]כי־ילד ילד־לנו בן נתן־לנו ותהי המשׂרה על־שׁכמו ויקרא שׁמו פלא יועץ אל גבור אביעד שׂר־שׁלום׃ [/B][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008080][B](HOT+)[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#0000ff][B](9:5) [/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][B]כי[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008000][B]H3588 [/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][B]ילד[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008000][B]H3206 [/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][B]ילד[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008000][B]H3205 [/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][B]לנו בן[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008000][B]H1121 [/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][B]נתן[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008000][B]H5414 [/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][B]לנו ותהי[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008000][B]H1961 [/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][B]המשׂרה[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008000][B]H4951 [/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][B]על[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008000][B]H5921 [/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][B]שׁכמו[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008000][B]H7926 [/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][B]ויקרא[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008000][B]H7121 [/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][B]שׁמו[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008000][B]H8034 [/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][B]פלא[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008000][B]H6382 [/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][B]יועץ[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008000][B]H3289 [/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][B]אל[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008000][B]H410 [/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][B]גבור[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008000][B]H1368 [/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][B]אביעד[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008000][B]H5703 [/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][B]שׂר[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008000][B]H8269 [/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][B]שׁלום׃[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008000][B]H7965 [/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008080][B](JPS)[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#0000ff][B](9:5)[/B][/COLOR][B] For a child is born unto us, a son is given unto us; and the government is upon his shoulder; and his name is called Pele- joez-el-gibbor-Abi-ad-sar-shalom; [/B][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008080][B](KJV)[/B][/COLOR][B] For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. [/B][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008080][B](KJV+)[/B][/COLOR][B] For[/B][COLOR=#008000][B]H3588[/B][/COLOR][B] unto us a child[/B][COLOR=#008000][B]H3206[/B][/COLOR][B] is born,[/B][COLOR=#008000][B]H3205[/B][/COLOR][B] unto us a son[/B][COLOR=#008000][B]H1121[/B][/COLOR][B] is given:[/B][COLOR=#008000][B]H5414[/B][/COLOR][B] and the government[/B][COLOR=#008000][B]H4951[/B][/COLOR][B] shall be upon[/B][COLOR=#008000][B]H5921[/B][/COLOR][B] his shoulder:[/B][COLOR=#008000][B]H7926[/B][/COLOR][B] and his name[/B][COLOR=#008000][B]H8034[/B][/COLOR][B] shall be[/B][COLOR=#008000][B]H1961[/B][/COLOR][B] called[/B][COLOR=#008000][B]H7121[/B][/COLOR][B] Wonderful,[/B][COLOR=#008000][B]H6382[/B][/COLOR][B] Counsellor,[/B][COLOR=#008000][B]H3289[/B][/COLOR][B] The mighty[/B][COLOR=#008000][B]H1368[/B][/COLOR][B] God,[/B][COLOR=#008000][B]H410[/B][/COLOR][B] The everlasting[/B][COLOR=#008000][B]H5703[/B][/COLOR][B] Father,[/B][COLOR=#008000][B]H1[/B][/COLOR][B] The Prince[/B][COLOR=#008000][B]H8269[/B][/COLOR][B] of Peace.[/B][COLOR=#008000][B]H7965[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008080][B](KJV-1611)[/B][/COLOR][B] For vnto vs a child is borne, vnto vs a Sonne is giuen, and the gouernment shalbe vpon his shoulder: and his name shalbe called, Wonderfull, Counseller, The mightie God, The euerlasting Father, The Prince of peace. [/B][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008080][B](KJVA)[/B][/COLOR][B] For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. [/B][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008080][B](LITV)[/B][/COLOR][B] For a Child is born; to us a Son is given; and the government is on His shoulder; and His name is called Wonderful, Counselor, The Mighty God, The Everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. [/B][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008080][B](LXX)[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#0000ff][B](9:5)[/B][/COLOR][B] ὅτι παιδίον ἐγεννήθη ἡμῖν, υἱὸς καὶ ἐδόθη ἡμῖν, οὗ ἡ ἀρχὴ ἐγενήθη ἐπὶ τοῦ ὤμου αὐτοῦ, καὶ καλεῖται τὸ ὄνομα αὐτοῦ Μεγάλης βουλῆς ἄγγελος· ἐγὼ γὰρ ἄξω εἰρήνην ἐπὶ τοὺς ἄρχοντας, εἰρήνην καὶ ὑγίειαν αὐτῷ. [/B][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008080][B](MKJV)[/B][/COLOR][B] For to us a Child is born, to us a Son is given; and the government shall be on His shoulder; and His name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. [/B][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008080][B](RV)[/B][/COLOR][B] For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. [/B][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008080][B](Vulgate)[/B][/COLOR][B] parvulus enim natus est nobis filius datus est nobis et factus est principatus super umerum eius et vocabitur nomen eius Admirabilis consiliarius Deus fortis Pater 10ombre saeculi Princeps pacis [/B][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008080][B](Webster)[/B][/COLOR][B] For to us a child is born, to us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. [/B][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008080][B](YLT)[/B][/COLOR][B] For a Child hath been born to us, A Son hath been given to us, And the princely power is on his shoulder, And He doth call his name Wonderful, Counsellor, Mighty God, Father of Eternity, Prince of Peace. [/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/LEFT] [/QUOTE]

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